[SOLVED] Eric removed Palemon from his smithy - palemoon: removed from the repository becasuse [sic] of developer attitude

Darth Vader · 09-02-2018, 07:00 AM

So, what was that "developer attitude" which make Master Eric-wan Kenobi to go ballistic?

Just curious...

Lysander666 · 09-02-2018, 07:22 AM

Something like this? Doesn't Eric explain it in his blog?

Darth Vader · 09-02-2018, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lysander666

Something like this? Doesn't Eric explain it in his blog?

Looks like I missed that. Probably the caching made me a figure.

Anyways, I am glad that Eric does not spend from his precious time anymore with this huge piece of crap.

solarfields · 09-02-2018, 07:43 AM

heh, reminds me of the Pidgin "drama"...

when a developer stated about Slackware that some of them "actively dislike this particular distribution"...

onebuck · 09-02-2018, 07:52 AM

Hi,

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Originally Posted by Darth Vader

So, what was that "developer attitude" which make Master Eric-wan Kenobi to go ballistic?

Just curious...

Eric did send out a email to registered email request;

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Pale Moon browser removed from my repository

by alienbob I have removed my contributed build of the Pale Moon browser from my package repository.
The reason? Primarily the attitude of its developers. The main developer is ridiculing Slackware. When working on my initial SlackBuild script and trying to obtain approval to use their 'official branding' I had a seriously grim argument with the lead minion of the developer group and the lead maintainer had to step in to appease. That set me off on the wrong foot from the beginning, but I thought an alternative to Firefox would be beneficial to Slackware users, so I added the package and build script despite my misgivings.
However, the above is not how a respectful relationship between developer and distributor works. Also, Moonchild refuses to mention me as a "contributed build" on the "contributed builds" page.
And frankly, I have enough of the arrogant attitude that all issues with their browser (which is a derivative of Mozilla Firefox code, forked before the moment certain big changes were being made to Firefox) are caused by packagers who compile and distribute their own binaries and never caused by the developers. That just falls short of confessing that their code is not mature yet.
If you want to keep running Pale Moon, you can use the SlackBuild script maintained by Khronosschoty and one of the binary packages he provides here: http://repo.khronosschoty.org/Slackware/Pale-Moon/
Eric

If you want to keep up with Eric's blog then I suggest that you subscribe so as to receive notifications of new posts by email.; https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/
Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!

Darth Vader · 09-02-2018, 08:01 AM

We Romanians, we invented long time ago an efficient method to deal with the Moon Children [1]

[1] the original name of vampires in Romanian: "copii Lunii" or "copii nopții" (night children)

Lysander666 · 09-02-2018, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vader

We Romanians, we invented long time ago an efficient method to deal with the Moon Children [1]

[1] the original name of vampires in Romanian: "copii Lunii" or "copii noptii" (night children)

Marked as helpful because I didn't know that was the original Romanian vampire name. I imagine I can go totally off topic on vampires [you started it, Darth] because the topic has been effectively solved [attached, a personal favourite].

Darth Vader · 09-02-2018, 08:09 AM

Be my guest, Lysander!

Yeah, the thread topic was effectively resolved.

BTW, my vampires related comment was because the Palemoon's founder uses the username "Moonchild" (literally "vampire" for Romanians) on his own forums.

Yep, is right on that guy who dared to say

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Hah.. slackware -- I'm not surprised you're having issues.

solarfields · 09-02-2018, 10:23 AM

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Master Eric-wan Kenobi

btw, this is really dumb. Why do you keep repeating it? To me it sounds as mocking...

Darth Vader · 09-02-2018, 10:32 AM

What mocking? True, it is a joke truly understand only by the true Star Wars fans[1]. Like Eric himself.

And a respectful appreciation, BTW.

[1] If you want a SW in-World insight:

the Kenobi House was one of most respected (and rich) Aristocratic Houses in galaxy (probably similar with the real life's House of Windsor), and "-wan" particle together with the House name was reserved for the current leader of it (like in "Obi, Count/Lord of Kenobi") while the Jedi Knights (like Obi-wan Kenobi) shall be refereed with the title of "Master" - in fact they was Force Masters.

Particularly, also to note that the Kenobi House given 10 generations of strong Jedi Knights until Master Obi-wan Kenobi, who was the eleventh. He worked directly for the Jedi Council for a reason.

Alien Bob · 09-02-2018, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vader

We Romanians, we invented long time ago an efficient method to deal with the Moon Children [1]

[1] the original name of vampires in Romanian: "copii Lunii" or "copii nopții" (night children)

I suggest reading "Children of the NIght" by one of my favourite Sci-Fi authors Dan Simmons. Time well-spent..

Lysander666 · 09-02-2018, 12:56 PM

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I suggest reading "Children of the NIght" by one of my favourite Sci-Fi authors Dan Simmons. Time well-spent..

Is this part of a series or can it be read on its own?

elcore · 09-02-2018, 12:59 PM

I'm not surprised the OP in that linked thread got issues with Slackware, either. He couldn't put a *.so into ~/.mozilla/plugins/ man.
Full of expectations plus the inability to search, he's one of those 'ubuntu does all that dirty work for me, why can't you' types.
It's a full-time unpaid job to hold the OP's hand.

Alien Bob · 09-02-2018, 01:07 PM

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Is this part of a series or can it be read on its own?

When looking for the Goodreads page I became aware that it is part of a series of sorts. However the book is a standalone story.

Lysander666 · 09-02-2018, 01:30 PM

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When looking for the Goodreads page I became aware that it is part of a series of sorts. However the book is a standalone story.

Excellent, I may pick it up. I'm off abroad in a week or so and it's always a good idea to take a book. As long as the writing style is good, I'm in.

EDIT: Just taken a look, the writing is decent, there's a sample on amazon.com. The older the book, the more of a chance that the writing is decent [I consider 1992 old, yes].